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Mesg #84065 "New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author ratled     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Tue Nov-17-09 11:01 PM
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Fri Nov-20-09 12:09 PM by Rusty_Happy_Camp

This is from the New 49er November website.......


http://goldgold.com/newsletter112009.htm

Legal costs continue. We cannot just quit litigation once it has started (unless we just want to forfeit the industry position). Here is just one example of what I mean; it will allow you a perception of how much work is involved just in defending against anti-mining interests’ ongoing attempt to overturn (appeal) a federal court Decision which we won several years ago. If we lose this one, it will be the end of most small-scale mining in all the national forests across America. There is a lot at stake here. As far as I know, we are the only organization within our industry that is actively defending small-scale miners in this appeal which our adversaries have filed. Read both briefs if you have time. Or, at least scan through the sixty-page brief filed by our attorneys so you can grasp the magnitude of the issues at stake, and gain a perception of the costs involved with mounting a strong defense:

APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
http://www.goldgold.com/legal/Karuk%27s_Opening_Brief_8-31-091.pdf

NEW 49’er OPPOSITION BREIF
http://www.goldgold.com/legal/49ers_Opening_Brief.pdf


ratled

New 49ers are the only ones representing the miners (they were sepcificaly named in the complaint against the NFS and were granted intervener status). They really could use any help they can get to fund this- please help if you can.

  

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RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, socalgold, Nov 19th 2009, #1
RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, ratled, Nov 19th 2009, #2
      RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, chickenlip willie, Nov 20th 2009, #3
           RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, Rusty_Happy_Camp, Nov 20th 2009, #4
                RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, russau, Nov 20th 2009, #5
                     RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, JOE S (INDY), Nov 20th 2009, #6
                          RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, chickenlip willie, Nov 20th 2009, #7
                               RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, socalgold, Nov 21st 2009, #8
                                    RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal, chickenlip willie, Nov 21st 2009, #9

Mesg #84071 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author socalgold     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Thu Nov-19-09 10:02 AM
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karuks brief won't open for me

Spay and neuter Liberals, don't need anymore basta*rds running around.
Obama - an undocumented worker

  

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Mesg #84075 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author ratled     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Thu Nov-19-09 02:29 PM
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Thu Nov-19-09 02:35 PM by ratled

Lee - send me a PM w/ your e mail and I can send you a copy.


You can also get to it here from the newsletter
http://www.goldgold.com/newsletter112009.htm

ratled

  

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Mesg #84083 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author chickenlip willie     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Fri Nov-20-09 10:53 AM
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Karuk brief will not open for me eather? ... Jim

  

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Mesg #84084 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author Rusty_Happy_Camp     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Fri Nov-20-09 12:13 PM by Rusty_Happy_Camp

Ok guys I think I have Ratled's original link fixed. They should take you directly to the 2 sides of the complaint.

  

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Mesg #84085 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author russau     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Fri Nov-20-09 03:15 PM
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yep its opening now.

  

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Mesg #84086 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author JOE S (INDY)     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Once again, Rusty can fix just 'bout anything!

JOE S (INDY)
Never Let Common Sense Get in the Way of Determination.

  

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Mesg #84089 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author chickenlip willie     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Fri Nov-20-09 05:22 PM
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Yes it opens now for me also.

After reading the Karuks brief twice, I don't see any new evidence that they have come up with that would turn this court decision around in there favor. Looks to me like it is just an attempt to drain the New 49ers. of as much cash flow as possible. Just my two cents worth? ..... Jim ...

  

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It's working Jim, and they get reimbursed for all their legal fees by the feds

Spay and neuter Liberals, don't need anymore basta*rds running around.
Obama - an undocumented worker

  

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Mesg #84118 "RE: New 49ers file in NFS appeal"
Author chickenlip willie     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
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Date Sat Nov-21-09 08:14 PM
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Well Lee, I think its a sand state of affairs that this group of Indians can milk and work the system this way and get away with it.

We need Legal Fund donations to keep this New 49ers. NFS appeal from being over turned. If we were to lose this, it would be the end of mining as we know it in California, and possibly across the United States. .... Jim

  

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